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Article from today's Beach Haven Times. The plans to tear down the Acme and rebuild are on hold.

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Too bad... that store is definitely in need of an overhaul.

Article from today's Beach Haven Times. The plans to tear down the Acme and rebuild are on hold.

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November 19, 2008

Plans to replace aging Acme market postponed

By NICHOLAS HUBA
Staff Writer

LONG BEACH TOWNSHIP — Citing the struggling economy, developer Patrick Moeller has decided to put on hold plans to redevelop the Acme in Peahala Park.

The plan had called for the demolition of the current Acme and the reconstruction of a new, state-of-the-art supermarket.

"It's going to be at least a year until any work starts," Moeller said. "The economy is one of the reasons that we are going to hold off on doing the improvements."

Moeller said over the next couple of weeks he is going to sit down with Acme officials to discuss issues regarding the project.

"There are a couple of issues that we have to work out with the lease, but overall I'm committed to the project," Moeller said.

Before full-scale construction on the project starts, Moeller said that he is going to make improvements to the parking lot.

"We're going to clean up the parking and make other improvements there," Moeller said. "But at the earliest, construction would start next winter."

In July 2007, the township's Land Use Board approved Moeller's plan.

The plan included demolishing the current 20,736-square- foot supermarket and replacing it with a 32,620-square-foot supermarket. The plan includes a 3,368-square-foot retail area and a 3,883- square-foot, 88-seat restaurant. The plan also called for the traffic light on Long Beach Boulevard to be moved north approximately 25 feet.

Acme operates 130 supermarkets in Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, according to its Web site.

Beach Haven Park Stadium 5, the 10,962- square-foot movie theater, will remain during the reconstruction.

Rick Reynolds, executive director of the Southern Ocean County Chamber of Commerce, said that these tough economic times for any business project right now.

"It's difficult for anyone to open a business right now, because of the tight credit market that it out there," Reynolds said. "I'm concerned not just for over here but for the whole country at this point."

"All economies have their cycles, for people who have things positioned well they are going to have success when the economy rebounds," Reynolds added.

I am wonderng if anyone knows what has happened to the Davison Lab web cam that shows the Brant Beach ocean view? It seems to have stopped operating on 11/06. Do they shut it down after a certain time of year? I like to view it a couple times a week to get my LBI "fix". The view and this question board are my year round connections to my favorite vacation spot, LBI. I have resorted to viewing a beach in NC. It is lovely, but doesn't show me the place I really love. Thanks for any info anyone has.
JillB in PA

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Same here...I enjoyed those cameras that PruZack ran a few years back--showed the traffic coming into the island and the beach/ocean. Wasted many a moment during work looking at those!

I am wonderng if anyone knows what has happened to the Davison Lab web cam that shows the Brant Beach ocean view? It seems to have stopped operating on 11/06. Do they shut it down after a certain time of year? I like to view it a couple times a week to get my LBI "fix". The view and this question board are my year round connections to my favorite vacation spot, LBI. I have resorted to viewing a beach in NC. It is lovely, but doesn't show me the place I really love. Thanks for any info anyone has.
JillB in PA

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Ditto, but CT.

I am wonderng if anyone knows what has happened to the Davison Lab web cam that shows the Brant Beach ocean view? It seems to have stopped operating on 11/06. Do they shut it down after a certain time of year? I like to view it a couple times a week to get my LBI "fix". The view and this question board are my year round connections to my favorite vacation spot, LBI. I have resorted to viewing a beach in NC. It is lovely, but doesn't show me the place I really love. Thanks for any info anyone has.
JillB in PA

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I'm with you all on that as well!

I don't live on the island, I too live in PA and miss LBI all through the winter months....

I am wonderng if anyone knows what has happened to the Davison Lab web cam that shows the Brant Beach ocean view? It seems to have stopped operating on 11/06. Do they shut it down after a certain time of year? I like to view it a couple times a week to get my LBI "fix". The view and this question board are my year round connections to my favorite vacation spot, LBI. I have resorted to viewing a beach in NC. It is lovely, but doesn't show me the place I really love. Thanks for any info anyone has.
JillB in PA

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There is an email contact at the bottom of the webcam page - you could try writing directly to the people involved for a reply. If you get one, please let us know the answer! Thanks!

To the owners: How are your 2009 rentals sizing up? Are your repeaters returning? I noticed the house we've rented many times is up for sale, yet we did just get the rental agreement.
My family members own a B&B and an inn in Vermont. With even the simplest vacations becoming a luxury item in this horrible economy, they say customers are becoming very price sensitive. Some of our family members have dropped out for next year, for various reasons and even though we still need a big house, I too am concerned about carrying the extra share. We will go, come hell or high water, still it will not be easy economically for the rest of the family that is coming. Just wondering if some of you owners may have to lower your prices or at least keep it at last year's level. It's not easy on anyone these days.

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Also, on the 2009 calendar- the 4th of July falls on a Saturday- who wants to move in on that day? Friday the 3rd is the public holiday and while traffic can be a nightmare for the 4th.. no matter what day it falls; this year, makes it a bit different for would be renters. You could have a party/celebration on the 3rd, but the next morning; you have to get up, clean up and move out; so that comes into play. Some renters may opt to get out and off the island Fri. night. Who knows? Moving in on the 4th- you've already lost half the day but I guess you could whip up a celebration and at least sleep in the next morning. Just know for us, all the packing and prep work, come move in day; that first night, we are all exhausted (but happy) come that night. For owners who clean their own place, I guess this presents a bit of a headache too. Anyway, we're changing our two weeks to include the 4th, so that we don't have this problem.
Stu, you hit the nail right on the head- I'm sure many are waiting till spring to see where they will be financially.

I am wonderng if anyone knows what has happened to the Davison Lab web cam that shows the Brant Beach ocean view? It seems to have stopped operating on 11/06. Do they shut it down after a certain time of year? I like to view it a couple times a week to get my LBI "fix". The view and this question board are my year round connections to my favorite vacation spot, LBI. I have resorted to viewing a beach in NC. It is lovely, but doesn't show me the place I really love. Thanks for any info anyone has.
JillB in PA

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Hi Jill,
I'm from PA, too. I do not know the answer to your question but I know where you are coming from with the LBI "fix" during the winter. There use to be several cameras showing different parts of LBI but they got rid of them, which I thought was a real shame. What I do for my LBI "fix" is go on You Tube and there are some videos of LBI on it. Also, you can get The Sandpaper online. www.thesandpaper.net
I read that throughout the winter months and that keeps me informed on what is going on. Plus the ads are great, too. You can get Copper Kettle Fudge in the winter. You can order it online. For me, it is definately a "taste" of LBI. Also, it is fun sometimes to go on Ebay and type in "Beach Haven NJ" or "Long Beach Island NJ" and see all the old postcards and LBI related stuff people are selling on there.
Like yourself, Jill, I can not wait until it is Summer once again and I am back on LBI.
:)

To the owners: How are your 2009 rentals sizing up? Are your repeaters returning? I noticed the house we've rented many times is up for sale, yet we did just get the rental agreement.
My family members own a B&B and an inn in Vermont. With even the simplest vacations becoming a luxury item in this horrible economy, they say customers are becoming very price sensitive. Some of our family members have dropped out for next year, for various reasons and even though we still need a big house, I too am concerned about carrying the extra share. We will go, come hell or high water, still it will not be easy economically for the rest of the family that is coming. Just wondering if some of you owners may have to lower your prices or at least keep it at last year's level. It's not easy on anyone these days.

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We have kept the rates the same for a few years now (tried to limit improvements, etc to keep rent "reasonable"); I have noticed that some two-weekers have become one-weekers. Also some people who used to book as soon as they left in the summer are waiting to spring to see what there personal finacial situation will be.

To the owners: How are your 2009 rentals sizing up? Are your repeaters returning? I noticed the house we've rented many times is up for sale, yet we did just get the rental agreement.
My family members own a B&B and an inn in Vermont. With even the simplest vacations becoming a luxury item in this horrible economy, they say customers are becoming very price sensitive. Some of our family members have dropped out for next year, for various reasons and even though we still need a big house, I too am concerned about carrying the extra share. We will go, come hell or high water, still it will not be easy economically for the rest of the family that is coming. Just wondering if some of you owners may have to lower your prices or at least keep it at last year's level. It's not easy on anyone these days.

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We never wait till the last minute. Sometimes we've scouted while on our LBI vacation. When you rent as we have, two, sometimes three houses, plus we always end up renting motel rooms, it's always an adventure. Still, when you need to rent a big house as I do, you do have a concern that your partners/family will be able to keep up their share. If I were renting a basic bungalow or townhouse with 2 or 3 bdrms, it would not be a problem but with a larger house you really have to take a lot into consideration. We do not rent above our means, but we do look for the best we can get with what we have. The economy is not helping and some out there are wondering where they will be economically months from now. Hence my question about how the owners are faring. Tough times ahead, but I wish you all good luck on your rentals.

To the owners: How are your 2009 rentals sizing up? Are your repeaters returning? I noticed the house we've rented many times is up for sale, yet we did just get the rental agreement.
My family members own a B&B and an inn in Vermont. With even the simplest vacations becoming a luxury item in this horrible economy, they say customers are becoming very price sensitive. Some of our family members have dropped out for next year, for various reasons and even though we still need a big house, I too am concerned about carrying the extra share. We will go, come hell or high water, still it will not be easy economically for the rest of the family that is coming. Just wondering if some of you owners may have to lower your prices or at least keep it at last year's level. It's not easy on anyone these days.

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We only rent the summer weeks and are half booked with mostly repeats. Last year everyone on my street were booked and even got a few calls from neighbors asking if I had any weeks open for some of their repeat renters who waited too long to book. With the economy the way it is people tend to stay closer to home to save. My advice to people looking to rent is stay within your means,but dont wait until the last minute that you have to settle for whats left.

Anybody know what movies are playing at the theater near the Acme?

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Yes but it was funny!

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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I have always gone as a kid. I turned my girlfriend onto LBI - now my wife of 20 years. Our kids count the days till LBI time. Every year now they literally get off the school bus on the last day and we go right down for that week.

To the owners: How are your 2009 rentals sizing up? Are your repeaters returning? I noticed the house we've rented many times is up for sale, yet we did just get the rental agreement.
My family members own a B&B and an inn in Vermont. With even the simplest vacations becoming a luxury item in this horrible economy, they say customers are becoming very price sensitive. Some of our family members have dropped out for next year, for various reasons and even though we still need a big house, I too am concerned about carrying the extra share. We will go, come hell or high water, still it will not be easy economically for the rest of the family that is coming. Just wondering if some of you owners may have to lower your prices or at least keep it at last year's level. It's not easy on anyone these days.

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We have 2 weeks booked thus far. Non repeaters. This is the third year we have kept our price the same. Since we have been booked for the past 6 summers, and the economy, we have kept it the same.

Summer of '06 we strange for us. We were not booked till into June. Every other year we were booked by around February. Go figure.

Keeping fingers crossed!

Anybody know what movies are playing at the theater near the Acme?

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Now that was un-necessary and uncalled for. The question was asked and answered.

Anybody know what movies are playing at the theater near the Acme?

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I waited in line for hours to see "Closed for the Season" last weekend. I finally gave up and went home.

hello again. thank you for your recent response. i have one more question for you. i understand that we will need to apply and purchase a permit from the town of beach haven in order to put up a tent on the grounds of the Gables Inn. please direct me on how to go about obtaining that application/permit. thank you very much.

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I would think that Gables should take care of that. It's on there property...

When you call BH don't just speak to one person. Too many times I have called there and gotten different answers from different people. Write down names too.

hello again. thank you for your recent response. i have one more question for you. i understand that we will need to apply and purchase a permit from the town of beach haven in order to put up a tent on the grounds of the Gables Inn. please direct me on how to go about obtaining that application/permit. thank you very much.

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Since the town issues all permits, give the town a call. (609) 492-0111

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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Like the song says "These are the good old days". We are now bringing our grandchildren to LBI and the beaches in Holgate are never that crowded. Our grandchildren today, still enjoy playing in the surf, flying kites, riding to the beach in their red Radio Flyer, making sandcastles, collecting shells and those wonderful carefree naps on the beach. Relish those warm memories of summers gone by, but do always try to make new ones, especially with the little ones. It is then, in those moments, that you get to re-live those sweetest of memories. Nothing ever stays the same but children will always have that sense of wonder. So don't despair;I am sure there are many good LBI memories ahead for you.

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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Dave,
Your right, I remember being at the shore a couple of times in early October and it was great. All the people had pretty much cleared out.

Was down this weekend. Nardis looked like it was totally gutted when we drove by. Any news on what they are doing?

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I think most people having work done, wherever it may be, always try to give the business to local people. If this guy Brennan went outside for the labor to handle the job he obviously felt the time limit was a deciding factor. I hope the place doesnt end up being another Daddy-O. It just seems out of place on the island.

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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I also have fond memories from family vacations in the 60's and seventies...but I have great memories each summer when I vacation here--the beach, the ocean, the bay, sunsets, etc along with great times with family and friends remain the same (give or take some sand).

hello! i already know that beach haven beaches are public property and that chairs are allowed to be set up on the sand for a wedding ceremony. However, the question i am trying to find out the answer to, is if a microphone for the ceremony and/or a speaker for music is allowed or not. thank you very much for your reply!

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Had my own wedding on the beach in Beach Haven a few years ago....we had music and microphone..no problems...have a wonderful wedding:)

hello! i already know that beach haven beaches are public property and that chairs are allowed to be set up on the sand for a wedding ceremony. However, the question i am trying to find out the answer to, is if a microphone for the ceremony and/or a speaker for music is allowed or not. thank you very much for your reply!

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According to former Beach Haven mayor Deb Whitcraft, she has performed quite a few beach weddings that included music, boom-boxes, and even DJs with microphones. Provided that the music isn't overly loud or disturbing to others (since beaches are public) there has never been any objection by the town.

Was down this weekend. Nardis looked like it was totally gutted when we drove by. Any news on what they are doing?

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Well I think you're both half-right (and of course half-wrong too). I'm building a house here and, while my contractor and most subs are local (surrounding mainland) and do excellent work, I am using a couple of North Jersey subs simply because they are doing some things nobody here does. I'm not sure why I had to go out-of-area but maybe it's because most homes here are built for summer with different requirements.

Is it better to go to the office on the island to get the service downgraded for the winter? Or take a chance calling the toll free # and hope you get someone who undestands what your asking.

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Go to the office and visit the cute strawberry blonde lady that works there...

Was down this weekend. Nardis looked like it was totally gutted when we drove by. Any news on what they are doing?

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Now now children...

Was down this weekend. Nardis looked like it was totally gutted when we drove by. Any news on what they are doing?

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no chip at all, just unfortunate facts. At least I don't resort to name calling...

How can I winterize my home?

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Open the windows on the windward side during a snowstorm. The accumulation will make it look much more like winter in your living room.

Does anyone know what the plans are for Ocean Bay Market? Are they going to re-open or put something else up on the lot.

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Last I heard they took such a beating selling the first house they developed on their property across the street that they are staying a grocery store for a while. It was late last year I heard that so something may have changed.

When should I winterize my home!

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Next you will be asking why, where and by whom.

Was down this weekend. Nardis looked like it was totally gutted when we drove by. Any news on what they are doing?

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My don't we have a chip on our shoulder? The reference was not to the political machine but to what will go into the building proper. I do think your crack about local contractors is out of line - just showing your ignorance but that's permitted. Hey, we'll see - I hope he does a nice job as Nardis was an institution. I used to practically commute between there and Hudson House.

Was down this weekend. Nardis looked like it was totally gutted when we drove by. Any news on what they are doing?

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I'm not sure what you mean by your comment other than that the local political machine is at least as slow an inept as the local trades people.

Was down this weekend. Nardis looked like it was totally gutted when we drove by. Any news on what they are doing?

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Hey ear we'll see if he gets an occupancy permit in time for summer!

When should I winterize my home!

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too late. we already had a frost and I went by your home and the outside shower already broke. I called public works and you will see a turnoff charge on your next water bill.

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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When I was a kid, there were no dunes, so if you rented a house right on the beach, you could go out the door and right down to the water. The 1962 storm changed that forever… but for the better. I remember the Lucy Evelyn in Beach Haven, and the Hartman go-carts with the giant orange robot next to them. When I was a teenager, I remember going to the trampolines in Surf City, and trying to learn to do flips to impress the girls (and not get paralyzed in the process). I remember eating at Wida’s, and up to just a few years ago, it still appeared exactly as I remember it as a kid. At least Copper Kettle Fudge is still there… and still the best IMO.

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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I agree...get a life. There are tons of young people today that will look back with very fond memories of the island NOW

Was down this weekend. Nardis looked like it was totally gutted when we drove by. Any news on what they are doing?

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Yes, Brennan was the one that purchased it from Nardi

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typical local gossip...I didn't get the job so I guess I'll make stuff up and spread rumors. Most of the trades hired are NOT local because he wants the job done by St Pats day (that's 2009 not 2010 if it were done by locals)and yes he bought it from Bob Nardi.
FYI...he also owns the Rita's on the south end of the island

Was down this weekend. Nardis looked like it was totally gutted when we drove by. Any news on what they are doing?

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Is Brennan the person who brought it from Nardi a few years ago? Or is this a new owner?

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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I can't believe all you people do is complain about us new folks and talk about how things were better on LBI before e all moved in!

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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More 1962 storm photos:

www.nap.usace.army.mil/Projects/LBI/1962storm/index1.htm

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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There are many 1962 storm photos on the web, including:

www.harveycedars.org/HCstormpics1.html

The full story is covered by John Bailey Lloyd in his book "Six Miles at Sea". People did not lose their life because they could not get off of the island. There were, sadly, some deaths in Beach Haven, but I seem to recall that they were officials bravely doing their job to help others.

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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Long Beach Island was great in the 1970's when I use to go as a kid, too. I would be interested to know what life was like on LBI after that terrible storm in the 1960's. Wasn't most of the homes destroyed or at least severely damaged? Didn't many people lose their lives because there was no way off of the island? When I went in the 1970's, LBI was a charming place and I did not see any damage. Some of you on this message board were around that time after the big storm. What was your experiences? Was it as bad as it looked?

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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Except for all of the houses you can still everything else - off season!

Was down this weekend. Nardis looked like it was totally gutted when we drove by. Any news on what they are doing?

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I understand Brennan - the guy who owns most of the gas stations on LBI bought it and is doing a complete rehab but on-the-cheap according to some contractors I spoke with.

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extensive renovation in addition to approximately a 20 foot build out to both floors.
The new second floor will be used as a banquest space.

Does anyone remember how beautiful Long Beach Island used to back in the 50's and 60's. Without all the traffic, crowds of people at restaurants, houses butted up next to each other on the beach, being able to drive right up to the sand and walk out onto the beach, not having to worry about beach badges or trying to find a place on the beach where you weren't 2 feet away from someone else.
Those were truly the good old days

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Oh, I sure do remember the good ole days.I remember the Lucy Evelyn, that was always a treat to go to.I have the most wonderful memories of summers and fall week-ends.Oh and 4-wheeling on the beach, what fun.I could go on but I need to get to work.